Elevate Your Audio & Video Game with Guest Jason Belisha: From Amateur to Pro

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Thinking big nation, I want to
welcome Jason to the show today.

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Welcome to the show, Jason.

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Thank you for having me on.

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One of the reasons I wanted to get
you on is I like getting people who

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do other coursework, that do courses
and do that are entrepreneurs like me,

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uh, and being able to really talk and
really learn things from each other.

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But, uh, before we really get into that,
I wanted to, one of the other things

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I want you to do is possibly critique.

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My audio video because
that's everyone here.

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That's what we're here for.

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We're here for his audio video He is a
genius when it comes to getting people

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set up for doing coursework for doing
really anything Online, especially

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for me, especially coursework is where
the stuff that you do really comes in

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Yeah, uh, well if you want a private
critique that's gonna have to come later

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I will not I wouldn't roast you on your
own show, but you're looking amazing I

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see you I hear you looks like you put
effort into your appearance, which makes

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me feel better about Being with you
honestly, that's what it's all about.

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Just showing effort.

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Showing effort.

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And, and I do think there is a bit,
uh, we'll go before we get into that.

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I wanted to talk a little bit about
your background and, and this is coming

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into it from being an entrepreneur
and from creating courses, but you

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come from an artistic background.

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And I think from an entrepreneur
standpoint, especially doing courses

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or anything like that, but from an
entrepreneur, entrepreneur standpoint.

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I think it is very big to come
from that sort of a background,

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an artistic background.

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I think there is a level of, I don't
know, imagination or a level of being able

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to go outside the box, scribble outside
the box that you wouldn't normally have.

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I think if you don't have some sort
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again, I think almost, I think a
lot of entrepreneurs are like that.

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That's kind of why I think why
we're entrepreneurs, but what is

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your, what is your background?

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How did you get into doing like
some of the coursework that you do?

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I love that you brought this
up because inherently, I think.

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Everyone's an artist,
especially entrepreneurs.

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They don't maybe label themselves as
that or realize that, but they are.

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And I do think artists would
make great entrepreneurs if they

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would just change their mindset.

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So, uh, the story of how I did
that, I guess, was it's hard to know

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how far back to go, but basically
I have a degree in sculpture.

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I've been a professional
drummer my whole life.

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So around age 27, Um, I was
doing voiceovers at home.

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That was my main method of income.

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Uh, also photography.

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So uh, around that time, my band
that I was in signed a record deal.

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It was actually kind of
a pretty big record deal.

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And I was thinking like, okay,
it's, it's a good opportunity,

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but it doesn't pay a lot.

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I need to make some money on the side.

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And, uh, the only option I could
think of was like, I've heard about

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this online course thing where I
can just basically teach people what

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I do through a series of videos.

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So it's really scalable.

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I can make it affordable and just like
run ads or guide traffic or just, I

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just learn everything I can about that.

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So it took me about six months to make my
first launch of my first voiceover course

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and it, you know, it did what it did.

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And uh, there was a lot of running
back and forth trying to like

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scale it and make it actually work.

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And it wasn't until I.

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Really bought like a very, very
expensive coaching program that

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got me to the numbers that I never
had imagined for myself before.

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So it was kind of a gun to my
head, kind of like a time limit

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where like, if you don't get this
passive income thing working,

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you're not touring with your band.

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So I needed that.

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And ironically, right when it was, you
know, the band was ready to tour and

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everything, that's when COVID came up.

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And now I'm just at that point,
I was just stuck with a passive

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income stream and nowhere to go.

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So I just doubled down on the
coursework and entrepreneurship

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and changed my network and actually
grew more into this than that.

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That's amazing.

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Again, most of the people that are
listening right now with this, uh,

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they're entrepreneurs, they're people
who are creating courses, they're

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people who are, who are doing that.

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And I think that every single person in
this world has a gift or has something

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that they can teach somebody else.

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If as long as you're two steps or one
step ahead of somebody, you can help

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somebody else out and you can help them.

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Instead of it taking a year,
take two months instead of

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taking 10 years, take a year.

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So to me, it's our job as human
beings to literally help people out

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and help people move further faster
with what we know and what we do.

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We don't have to be some huge company to
create something that helps somebody out.

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So hats off to you.

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Thank you.

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And I completely agree.

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It's like the way I like to say
what you just said is if you're

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watching 5 percent or 1 percent
ahead of 99 percent of people.

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You can sell 100 info product to 100,
000 people and become a millionaire.

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It's like you only need to be
slightly ahead and you don't

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need authority to do that.

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You just assume authority by, by
having good information and knowing in

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your heart that this is really good.

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This will help.

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This is not BS.

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This is not going to hurt people.

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This is going to help people.

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By providing that to us, it's kind of
your duty, you know, as course creators,

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as, as mentors, like we're kind of like.

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The elders and scribes of our generation
of this century of this millennia, and

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they had a job and we have the same job,
you know, it's kind of oral tradition.

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It's kind of just like that.

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So just helping people get ahead.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And if we do it and it really
doesn't take that much.

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So again, I, when I'm working with
some of my course creators and some of

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the people that I work with, it's like
people until they sit down and look at

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numbers, they don't really understand is
like, if you sell to just 2000 people.

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A low ticket, like a 500 ticket item.

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People don't realize they go,
Oh, 2, 000 at 500, that's, you

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know, that's a million dollars.

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People, 2, 000 people at just a 500, which
is, you know, it's not a high ticket item.

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It's not a, you know,
extremely low ticket item.

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It's average, you know, average
ticket for kind of a course, you

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know, it's yeah, mid ticket stuff.

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It really adds up very quickly.

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It doesn't take a lot to, uh, to
really grow your business and to

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really be able to do this as a living
or as a, as a really good side hustle

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while you're doing other things.

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I mean, if you get good feedback
initially at low scale and people

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are enjoying your product and your
refund rate is low and people seem

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to be getting actual value from it.

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It'll work at a higher scale.

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You just find diff different ways to
run traffic to it and yeah, you'll

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make a million bucks as someone who's
never done anything like that before.

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You don't need a giant infrastructure,
you don't need a giant team.

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It's pretty available.

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Yeah.

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To all of us.

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Yeah.

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And doing courses, so looking
at courses themselves and

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there, I think there's a time.

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If we're, if we're going to, if we're
going to go through this and I'm going

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to build a course and I'm going to,
you know, take the time to do this,

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I want to really help people out.

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A lot of people will come in and
say, Oh, you can, you know, you

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can do it on your, your iPhone.

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You can, you know, you can do it on one
of these little, you know, I've got this

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little, uh, Osmo pocket three, which is
a fantastic thing for a run and shoot.

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And just, you know, I took this tutorial,
you know, we were just talking, I took

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this to Turkey with a wireless microphone
and that's what I used on the road.

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Yeah.

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But if we're building courses and we're
building something that we really, we've

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got to show some level of authority,
we've got to show we've got, and it's

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not just the equipment that we have.

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It's how we show up.

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It's how you present yourself.

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But there is a level, I think, a
quality of expectation of people.

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Now, if they're going to spend 100
on a course, they don't want to.

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I mean, I hate to say this and tell me
if I'm wrong, but they don't want to see

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someone that's just sitting there with a
bad And it's like, they're not going to,

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to me, they're either not going to sell or
they're not going to have happy customers

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because it just doesn't relay the,
the, the message of what they're doing.

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I think,

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which metaphor should I use?

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It's like, if you like order a meal, why
do we care about presentation points?

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You know, when you're presenting
your information to people or you're

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selling God, if you're selling to
people, it's like, if you're not

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going to take the time to put your
resources together and present yourself

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to me in a deliberate and meaningful
way, why should I meet you halfway?

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You know, it's, it's about
looking resourceful, looking

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like you have your shit together.

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So good.

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That you can afford this outward
appearance, you can afford to,

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to at least hire someone or find
some resource to make this work.

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Because again, like another metaphor I
use is like, okay, if I invite you into

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my house and you know, it's, I tell
you to make yourself comfortable and

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like, Everything's kind of just crappy.

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It's hard to settle in.

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It's distracting.

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It's not a good experience
you're giving people.

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So that's why it's, it's, it's about
not, yes, not being distracting,

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also looking authoritative.

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It's kind of about all of that.

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Uh, and I mean, look, if you really
held me down, I'd be like, yes, sure.

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You can shoot with your iPhone.

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You can.

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What about the pride
you take in what you do?

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Doesn't doesn't that
make a difference to you?

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If this one, if you're going to
record it once for the money,

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this one's for the money.

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This one's for the big audience.

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I don't ever want to do it again.

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I want to script it.

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I want it on a teleprompter.

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I want to say everything I mean to
say, and I want to just emblazon

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it in this beautiful image.

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Wouldn't you just want to do it the
best you possibly can and look amazing?

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I would.

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Yeah.

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I'm just speaking for myself.

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yeah.

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And Oh, absolutely.

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And a lot of it.

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So I get comments from people sometimes
it's like, well, I would rather be

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authentic than to have a nice setup.

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And I'm like, you can be authentic.

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And look professional at the same time
being authentic has nothing to do with,

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with, uh, you know, with, with what
you record on, you can be authentic and

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both again, to me, there's a time for
the, the running gun shoot stuff shorts.

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If I'm out, I'm out doing little shorts
doing things, but I'm not going to

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want to record like a course on this.

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It's just not.

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It really just doesn't show what I want
to portray as, as, as me, as my company.

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If you're asking people to sit there
for 15 minutes, 30 minutes, an hour

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on a webinar or for eight, 10, 12
hours on your course, and you're going

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to ask them to look at you with your
screeching audio, just it's about respect.

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I think.

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And, and speaking of authenticity,
if I were being authentic.

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This is the image of me
that I want you to see.

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This is the, this is how
I see myself in my mind.

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I, I feel like a professional.

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I feel like I really
deserve to look this way.

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That's authentic.

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I don't have to, I don't have to dumb
down my quality to make it okay to

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make you feel better or relatable.

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I just don't buy it.

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,
I truly think that that is a,
again, you don't have to have.

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And you don't have to have
really expensive equipment.

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I mean, you can have just decent,
just some decent level of stuff

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to get a very good quality.

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And again, it's how you show up.

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It's how you, how you come on screen,
how you, how you do things that,

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you know, that really portrays,
but there is a way to do it.

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To me, most effectively.

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People asking me how I, you know, how
I set up my little studio, I do this.

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I am the wrong person to ask
because one, I'm a tech geek.

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So it's like I buy shit just to buy shit.

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I've got 25 different mics around here.

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I've got, you know,
seven different cameras.

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Don't ask me because I just buy shit.

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We would be friends.

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Yeah.

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I'm just a tech gadget.

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I love doing things.

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So it's like, you know, I've got, you
know, microphones, you know, shotgun

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microphones for when I'm doing videos.

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I've got, you know, microphones
for podcasting I've got, but

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you don't need all of that.

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But don't ask me because I'll say, yeah,
you need, you need five different cameras.

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You need, and you just really don't,
you know, and I think some of the stuff

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that I've seen with you is you, you're
teaching people with one of your courses.

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Again, we, we got into that.

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You are a course creator.

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You know, this is kind of what you do.

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You're an entrepreneur, a course creator,
and one of your courses is teaching

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people how to use audio and video.

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To me in the, in the best possible
way, in the, in the most efficient way.

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Uh, and, and again, that's why I
really wanted to bring you on here.

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It's because I don't know these things.

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I know my audience really wants to know,
you know, what are some of the things

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that we can do as course, as course
creators, or even just entrepreneurs

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doing online videos for, for things
like ads or, or anything that we

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want, or just our online presence.

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What are some of the things that
we need to look at or we need to

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do to look a little bit better.

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But without maybe breaking,
you know, breaking the bank,

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right?

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So a little backtrack on
how I got started in this.

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I know my story left
off at voiceover course.

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So since I was hanging out with other
entrepreneurs, people who make courses,

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I was showing them my ads, my webinar.

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And they're like, how do you
look like professional like that?

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Did you hire a video crew?

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I'm like, no, it's just
stuff I have at home.

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I'm a photographer.

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I do voiceovers.

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Like I know audio video.

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They're like, yeah.

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You got to show me how to do that.

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And the light bulb went off.

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I'm like, okay, okay.

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Yes.

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That's the entrepreneur, right?

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Okay.

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Oh, here's a problem.

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This has

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not different newer.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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He smart, wealthy people or
just smart, resourceful people

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want to learn this skill.

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And that's the cool thing
about course creation.

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It can be a novel idea just by virtue
of who it's for, because there are other

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filmmaking course courses all over YouTube
and ads and stuff there for filmmakers.

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But entrepreneurs don't want like 75
percent of the information in that course.

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They want something
that's tailored to them.

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So I knew that I had to create
the course that is the most

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efficient way to film yourself.

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There are budget options, so
it can be just on an iPhone.

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And again, to answer your question,
what's one of the most important

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things you can do right away?

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Light.

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Light makes a bigger
difference than the camera.

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If you got your lighting correct,
you would make a bigger impact on an

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iPhone than if you got a more expensive
camera and had the same lighting.

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If that makes sense.

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Oh yeah.

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The camera only sees what
you put in front of it.

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It only sees light and shade and color.

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So your light will affect what
light and shade and color is

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presented to the camera sensor.

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And that's it can't lie.

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So if you just get yourself lit
better, any camera, even your

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phone will see you clearer.

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So that's one thing.

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And in my course, I show how to
manipulate your lighting for an

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iPhone, uh, for a regular camera.

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And I wouldn't exceed
1, 000 on a camera body.

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This is not just because you have
money doesn't mean you need to blow it.

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So, you know, there, there are
boundaries around how we spend money.

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And it will get us the most bang
for the buck, not only for the

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quality, but for the workflow.

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There's a specific reason I choose
specific microphones because they have

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very unique inputs and outputs that allow
it to be wireless and not require an audio

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mixer and other advantages like that.

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Right.

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So the lighting as well, you can plug
them in with a smart sockets and have

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them go on your Alexa Google system.

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So their voice command now.

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So that stuff is all over the place.

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We don't even use those big soft
boxes because I was thinking,

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what would a busy entrepreneur
want to build and use every day?

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So I built that.

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And that's genius.

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And it's, and had you, had I known
about you, like maybe three years ago,

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I would have saved probably 50, 000.

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I'm sure it's like right now I'm going
through, I think it's a Canon R five.

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I've got, that's just all this.

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Yeah.

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Stuff I don't need, but it's
like, but again, I'm a tech geek

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and I like toys, so it's toys.

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So when people ask me, what do you use?

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I'm like, you don't want to know.

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It's like, this is not the, this is not
the right setup for, for most people.

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And again, it's just cause I'm a, I'm a.

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That's just what I do.

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I like doing that, but I would
not go out and buy my setup for

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what I do because it's just not,
it's not practical for, for that.

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It's practical for a hobby.

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Sure.

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But it's not practical for someone
going in and wanting to record, uh,

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you know, record a video or something.

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Yeah.

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I mean, if you really wanted
to save time and money, you

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wouldn't do it the way you did it.

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You would want something streamlined.

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That's just already figured out for you.

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Just pick from this menu.

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Yeah.

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Yep.

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No, that's.

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And that's great.

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And so what do you think about,
like, for instance, right now I'm

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going through a teleprompter now
I'm not someone like when I do my

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courses, I'm not someone who likes to.

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Most of the time read script, like
if I'm doing a course, I'll have

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like the, like my, uh, uh, the, the
PowerPoint up there and I'll just kind

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of, you know, I'll talk from that.

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Sometimes it'll be from script, but I
use it mainly for like this podcast so I

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can look directly at you while I'm doing
the interview and I'm not looking down.

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I'm not looking up.

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I'm looking right at you.

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So that's mainly what I
use a teleprompter for.

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What are your thoughts on like
teleprompters and things like

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that for people to, to use?

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I am such an advocate of teleprompters
and I get so much backlash because

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people are like, no, it's going
to make me sound like a robot.

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I don't want to do that.

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And I'm like, you haven't seen
the way I use a teleprompter.

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And first of all, I didn't know,
I don't know where you found this

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eye contact feature or strategy.

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It's something I came upon myself, but
I think it's kind of like, like fire was

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discovered kind of in multiple places
and I'm seeing it more frequently now.

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So I mean, what a hack, isn't it?

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It's great because I'm doing the
same thing so I can look right at

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you and like the rapport is there.

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I feel like I'm in the room with you.

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Yeah.

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That's much.

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And that's the thing.

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So it's like when, when I'm doing
interviews, it's like, I don't want

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to be looking at a different screen
and saying, Hey, how are you doing?

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It's like, you just don't, half
of our communication is by our

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gestures, by our nonverbal facial.

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It's all nonverbal.

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And it's like, so it's
very important to do that.

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Yeah.

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So, and there's a lot
of different ways to do

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it too.

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Totally.

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Totally.

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Totally.

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Totally.

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And, and I think a, first of all,
when you look at yourself with new

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lighting, You'll already feel better.

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Another thing that will make you
perform better is the teleprompter,

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but not in the traditional sense.

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Most teleprompters we're used to seeing
the words just constantly scroll and

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you can't seem to get ahead of it.

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You're behind it.

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You're, you're, you just, you people
fall into this sort of trance and

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they're just, you can see their eyes
kind of going around and they, it sucks.

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Of course, it's a bad experience for you.

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Bad for them.

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But what I use is a special
app that is voice dictated.

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So it only scrolls when you speak.

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And if you stop, it stops.

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You can breathe, you can drink, you
can go off script and come back.

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And that does 90 percent for most people.

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Just with that, they immediately.

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Um, turn on when they, when they
see the script instead of turn off.

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So the other step to that is
since it's voice dictated, it

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needs to be able to hear you.

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So usually your camera and your iPad
is usually an iPad is running it.

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It's too far away from you
and your iPad can't hear you.

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So we have a way.

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of wirelessly linking this microphone
to not only your camera, but splitting

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the signal to also go into your iPad.

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So that controls that teleprompter device
perfectly efficiently with no mistakes.

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So that's, that's why a man
like I took forever to figure

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out this shit for people.

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So they don't have to think about it.

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Yeah.

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Me, no, I'm going through
like nine different mixers and

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hooking shit up left and right.

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And it's like, yeah, it's not,

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And more power to you, dude.

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I was like that, too.

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You should have seen my room when I was
making the course, testing all this stuff.

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Just like that.

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And so the other thing that I always,
especially not, not only for content,

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like for online content and, and courses
and stuff, but especially for like

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podcasts, uh, any audio to me, audio
is as important, if not more important

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to the video, because I will, I noticed
notice myself, if I'm watching something.

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It might have a bad video quality
and I'll put up with it and

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I'll watch it and listen to it.

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But if it's got poor audio, I
turn that off almost immediately.

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And it's like, that is another big
thing that people don't realize.

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And again, the stuff that you
talk about in your course is

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like, audio is a big, a big deal.

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Audio really is a big deal.

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And interestingly, the way I
came at my creative freelance

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career was voiceover first.

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So I'm so.

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Tuned in to voices.

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It's like I, I listened to the
voice before I listened to the

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words in a way, if that makes sense.

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And I'm so used to hearing my own voice
being recorded and manipulating that sound

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with EQ and noise gates and compressors
and like getting, getting sound to work.

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So I know when I get it right and
it seems to make its way directly

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to my heart and the message is, is.

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Unfurled from that, when
there's good audio with no

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distractions, that's the thing.

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When you like good audio, you
shouldn't even notice, right?

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Bad audio distracts.

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So when the audio is perfect,
there's no distraction.

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There's no veil between the
message and your heart, your mind.

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So that's when I know, and people
know, everyone knows, everyone

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knows what good and bad audio is.

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If you can't tell, it's good.

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And people will complain if you have
bad audio, but they will not say

468
00:21:31,784 --> 00:21:32,924
anything if you have great audio.

469
00:21:33,134 --> 00:21:34,104
It's because they don't notice it.

470
00:21:34,134 --> 00:21:35,054
They don't, they don't see it.

471
00:21:35,534 --> 00:21:38,584
And there's so much, even again,
video and audio, but there's

472
00:21:38,584 --> 00:21:39,834
so much with like microphones.

473
00:21:39,944 --> 00:21:41,764
I mean, with you doing voiceover.

474
00:21:42,234 --> 00:21:45,124
There's just so many things
that I'm sure you go over.

475
00:21:45,144 --> 00:21:47,644
I know some of your course, but that
you go over in your course, but like

476
00:21:47,794 --> 00:21:51,914
your room, how you set your room up,
how you, you know, cause you get in

477
00:21:51,914 --> 00:21:54,824
some rooms with some mics and it'll
sound like you're in an echo chamber.

478
00:21:55,134 --> 00:21:58,744
Uh, you get in, you know, so you have
to be able to get with a pro like you

479
00:21:58,744 --> 00:22:01,984
that knows what, cause there, there
might be a mic that sounds pretty good.

480
00:22:02,184 --> 00:22:02,614
Perfect.

481
00:22:02,614 --> 00:22:05,214
You might be on one right now
that sounds absolutely fantastic.

482
00:22:05,494 --> 00:22:09,434
But if I took your same mic and I
brought it into my room, it might

483
00:22:09,434 --> 00:22:10,954
sound like crap with my voice.

484
00:22:11,344 --> 00:22:14,814
I mean, it's just so it's, it's, yeah,
you, you've got to, and unless you're

485
00:22:14,814 --> 00:22:19,994
going to spend like me, spend, waste,
invest, however you want to look at it,

486
00:22:20,404 --> 00:22:24,014
lots of money with, with microphones,
then it's, it's very hard to, you know,

487
00:22:24,014 --> 00:22:27,669
you, you, I would have been so much better
off if I would have just paid someone to

488
00:22:27,669 --> 00:22:29,709
come in and say, Hey, set this up for me.

489
00:22:29,939 --> 00:22:30,759
Look at my room.

490
00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:31,489
What do I need?

491
00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:35,099
Uh, so do you go into like any
of, uh, like acoustics for a

492
00:22:35,099 --> 00:22:36,419
room or anything like that?

493
00:22:36,419 --> 00:22:36,949
I know you do.

494
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:37,579
So what?

495
00:22:38,334 --> 00:22:42,985
One of the things that I've noticed with
every one of your clients is the lighting

496
00:22:43,475 --> 00:22:49,995
and the backdrop and the sound is all
extremely clear and extremely good.

497
00:22:50,124 --> 00:22:52,725
You've got the, you know, the vignette
in the background you've got, but

498
00:22:52,735 --> 00:22:57,495
everyone that I've seen you, your before
and afters has a very, very good look.

499
00:22:57,495 --> 00:23:00,334
So I'm assuming you, you've worked
with people on their room as well.

500
00:23:00,985 --> 00:23:01,485
Yeah.

501
00:23:01,625 --> 00:23:04,635
Um, actually it doesn't take
much, just a few strategic moves.

502
00:23:04,695 --> 00:23:06,175
And again, I know.

503
00:23:06,599 --> 00:23:11,069
What a reasonable and resourceful
person would do what they

504
00:23:11,069 --> 00:23:12,439
would buy what they would do.

505
00:23:12,879 --> 00:23:17,329
So I wouldn't ask anyone to glue or
tape or drill anything into their walls.

506
00:23:17,419 --> 00:23:18,169
That's first of all.

507
00:23:18,679 --> 00:23:22,920
Um, honestly, what makes some of the
biggest difference is just a rug.

508
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:23,924
Just a really cheap rug.

509
00:23:24,594 --> 00:23:26,834
Thick shaggy rug will do a lot.

510
00:23:27,014 --> 00:23:28,454
Um, also your mic choice.

511
00:23:28,674 --> 00:23:31,904
So most people, um, they wind
up with like that blue Yeti

512
00:23:32,204 --> 00:23:33,364
and I don't know how it got so,

513
00:23:35,774 --> 00:23:37,144
I don't know how it got so popular.

514
00:23:37,524 --> 00:23:38,014
I know dude.

515
00:23:38,054 --> 00:23:41,124
Cause like, honestly, in the right
conditions, it sounds fine, but,

516
00:23:41,524 --> 00:23:45,404
uh, it is a hyper or not a hyper,
it's a regular super cardioid mic.

517
00:23:45,454 --> 00:23:46,764
So that will pick up.

518
00:23:47,064 --> 00:23:49,254
Audio from 180 degrees around the grill.

519
00:23:49,544 --> 00:23:50,614
And so what do you think
that's going to do?

520
00:23:50,614 --> 00:23:52,994
It's going to hit again, a pickup
reverb and things from all over the

521
00:23:52,994 --> 00:23:56,154
place versus something like you have
a dynamic mic or mine, a shotgun

522
00:23:56,154 --> 00:23:58,174
mic, it's more unidirectional.

523
00:23:58,414 --> 00:24:00,064
So that just your microphone choice.

524
00:24:00,074 --> 00:24:02,514
And like, I don't know, dude,
lay a rug on the ground.

525
00:24:02,704 --> 00:24:05,234
Like it it's pretty common
sense, simple stuff.

526
00:24:05,624 --> 00:24:10,334
Um, if you can get with it and understand
the behavior of light and sound to a

527
00:24:10,334 --> 00:24:15,324
very simple, small extent, it's You'll
make some, a lot smarter choices.,

528
00:24:16,064 --> 00:24:18,204
I use this, this sure mic right here.

529
00:24:18,204 --> 00:24:21,594
Not because I, I don't necessarily
like the mic, but it's just convenient.

530
00:24:21,594 --> 00:24:22,224
It's easy.

531
00:24:22,294 --> 00:24:26,764
Uh, you know, again, I've got, you know,
a nice shotgun mic up here that I use,

532
00:24:26,764 --> 00:24:29,254
but I only use it for video when I don't
want it to be when I don't want it to be

533
00:24:29,254 --> 00:24:32,684
on screen, but that's not necessarily the
right thing to, I mean, I've, I've noticed

534
00:24:32,794 --> 00:24:37,364
some of your, your videos where a lot
of people are using the shotgun mic that

535
00:24:37,364 --> 00:24:39,494
mic actually sounds way better than this.

536
00:24:39,494 --> 00:24:39,804
Sure.

537
00:24:39,864 --> 00:24:43,904
The shers again, that's, uh, but
almost every podcaster you see

538
00:24:43,904 --> 00:24:45,264
has one of these damn, damn shers.

539
00:24:45,264 --> 00:24:46,864
And it's really not that
great of a microphone.

540
00:24:46,864 --> 00:24:51,284
I mean, it's, it's decent, but it's not,
yeah, it's not really a great microphone.

541
00:24:51,774 --> 00:24:56,944
So would, would like if, so you're
on your client, what are two or

542
00:24:56,944 --> 00:24:58,574
three things that you see right now?

543
00:24:58,984 --> 00:25:02,464
Move to my, uh, You know, move
to my shotgun mic, change my

544
00:25:02,464 --> 00:25:03,974
lighting, change my background.

545
00:25:04,084 --> 00:25:08,044
What are, what are a few things that just
looking at this saying, Sean, this is, you

546
00:25:08,044 --> 00:25:10,764
know, you could do some improvement here.

547
00:25:11,364 --> 00:25:11,764
Okay.

548
00:25:11,914 --> 00:25:15,424
Is your question about outer
appearance or efficiency?

549
00:25:16,454 --> 00:25:17,114
Outer appearance.

550
00:25:17,144 --> 00:25:17,584
Outer appearance.

551
00:25:18,064 --> 00:25:18,884
I'm never efficient.

552
00:25:19,824 --> 00:25:20,804
Well, okay.

553
00:25:20,804 --> 00:25:21,874
We'll get to that another time then.

554
00:25:22,484 --> 00:25:24,474
That's, that's just a private
call between you and me.

555
00:25:25,074 --> 00:25:28,189
First of all, I think your 7b
Um, I think it sounds great.

556
00:25:28,189 --> 00:25:30,769
I think that is actually one of the
best sounding mics on the market.

557
00:25:30,889 --> 00:25:32,489
Um, what's that over your head?

558
00:25:32,499 --> 00:25:33,569
The 416?

559
00:25:33,569 --> 00:25:33,989
Yeah, it's a

560
00:25:33,989 --> 00:25:34,509
416.

561
00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:34,989
Okay.

562
00:25:35,589 --> 00:25:36,529
Which is a fantastic mic.

563
00:25:36,529 --> 00:25:36,999
I love the mic.

564
00:25:36,999 --> 00:25:40,349
Yeah, actually that's the second
most common mic used in voiceover.

565
00:25:40,399 --> 00:25:41,809
So it sounds great on the voice.

566
00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:44,739
Um, I actually do it wrong.

567
00:25:44,859 --> 00:25:46,979
People yell at me because
I have my shotgun.

568
00:25:47,699 --> 00:25:48,839
on screen in front of me.

569
00:25:49,139 --> 00:25:50,859
And it's actually completely wireless.

570
00:25:50,870 --> 00:25:51,659
So that's one thing.

571
00:25:51,879 --> 00:25:53,239
And it's being hidden by this plant.

572
00:25:53,250 --> 00:25:56,230
So even if you did give me a dig
for having the mic on screen,

573
00:25:56,230 --> 00:25:57,350
well, you can't even see it.

574
00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:02,177
So your mic, I think any mic that's
literally any microphone at all

575
00:26:02,177 --> 00:26:06,189
will sound 10 times better if you
just get it closer to your mouth.

576
00:26:06,639 --> 00:26:10,024
Um, the seven B I can tell that's
probably a good distance from you.

577
00:26:10,024 --> 00:26:12,674
You want it two to four inches,
maybe two to three inches

578
00:26:12,674 --> 00:26:14,394
from the corner of your mouth.

579
00:26:14,554 --> 00:26:16,104
And I see you have it
placed off to the side.

580
00:26:16,154 --> 00:26:17,074
That's exactly right.

581
00:26:17,074 --> 00:26:21,084
So we don't get plosives and
annoying stuff about your image.

582
00:26:21,124 --> 00:26:26,434
If I can take a good look, I think your
lighting is a little bit undecided.

583
00:26:27,174 --> 00:26:28,544
It's not very deliberate.

584
00:26:29,284 --> 00:26:33,624
I think your key light is above
you to your left slightly.

585
00:26:34,645 --> 00:26:34,985
Correct?

586
00:26:36,004 --> 00:26:36,264
Yeah.

587
00:26:36,384 --> 00:26:36,744
I think.

588
00:26:36,744 --> 00:26:38,885
Do you have a fill light operating on you?

589
00:26:39,954 --> 00:26:40,314
Uh, yeah.

590
00:26:40,314 --> 00:26:44,385
So I have an above light and then I,
I've got two, uh, two lights coming in.

591
00:26:45,284 --> 00:26:49,214
I'd like to see what happens if you
kill the fill light on your left side.

592
00:26:50,214 --> 00:26:51,054
Can you do that right now?

593
00:26:51,194 --> 00:26:51,754
On my left side?

594
00:26:51,755 --> 00:26:53,134
Yeah.

595
00:26:53,614 --> 00:26:54,304
Oh, absolutely.

596
00:26:54,304 --> 00:26:59,484
That's what the, so if I go
here, I can, let me pull this up.

597
00:26:59,484 --> 00:26:59,704
Oop.

598
00:26:59,744 --> 00:27:00,634
I killed both of them.

599
00:27:01,584 --> 00:27:03,414
I do want to see them at some point.

600
00:27:04,944 --> 00:27:05,254
Yeah.

601
00:27:05,254 --> 00:27:07,185
For some reason they're tied together.

602
00:27:07,244 --> 00:27:08,664
Don't know why Amarand

603
00:27:08,664 --> 00:27:09,054
system?

604
00:27:09,404 --> 00:27:09,874
Uh, no.

605
00:27:10,074 --> 00:27:10,324
Okay.

606
00:27:10,324 --> 00:27:10,464
No.

607
00:27:10,464 --> 00:27:12,234
So these are just little Elgato lights.

608
00:27:12,264 --> 00:27:13,044
Oh, the Elgato.

609
00:27:13,064 --> 00:27:13,394
Okay.

610
00:27:13,394 --> 00:27:14,274
So it's over wifi.

611
00:27:14,784 --> 00:27:15,674
Amarand is Bluetooth.

612
00:27:16,024 --> 00:27:16,514
Actually.

613
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,759
What you have here is
definitely more dramatic.

614
00:27:20,970 --> 00:27:22,129
You just turned off your,

615
00:27:24,449 --> 00:27:25,499
so you have three lights on you.

616
00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:26,879
Yes.

617
00:27:26,909 --> 00:27:27,279
Above.

618
00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:27,899
And then two.

619
00:27:27,999 --> 00:27:30,169
So I can, I can adjust,
you know, the brightness.

620
00:27:30,879 --> 00:27:33,919
So your, your main key
light is directly above you.

621
00:27:35,060 --> 00:27:35,409
Yes.

622
00:27:35,419 --> 00:27:36,989
So I've got one light directly above me.

623
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,260
I see that's butterfly style.

624
00:27:38,689 --> 00:27:40,689
So I love butterfly lighting.

625
00:27:40,780 --> 00:27:43,899
It's just sometimes kind of a pain
because you have to rig something.

626
00:27:43,899 --> 00:27:44,020
Yeah.

627
00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:44,027
Yeah.

628
00:27:44,027 --> 00:27:44,034
Yeah.

629
00:27:44,324 --> 00:27:46,614
overhead versus off to the side.

630
00:27:46,974 --> 00:27:49,144
Um, and like a regular
boom stand would do that.

631
00:27:49,144 --> 00:27:51,544
But, I mean, it's in the course,
but I wouldn't rec, I wouldn't

632
00:27:51,574 --> 00:27:53,474
ask anyone to do that standard.

633
00:27:53,905 --> 00:27:54,725
Um, right.

634
00:27:54,735 --> 00:27:58,814
So your shadows, if you killed the
fill lights, your shadows are going

635
00:27:58,814 --> 00:28:00,754
to wind up kind of under your cheek.

636
00:28:00,814 --> 00:28:04,114
Under your chin on both sides evenly
because I love that butterfly look.

637
00:28:04,114 --> 00:28:07,604
It's dramatic, really pulls all
the attention onto you and centers

638
00:28:07,604 --> 00:28:08,594
it in the middle of the screen.

639
00:28:08,654 --> 00:28:09,164
It's beautiful.

640
00:28:09,604 --> 00:28:13,215
So I think actually what I'd like
to see is just both fill lights

641
00:28:13,254 --> 00:28:18,034
on, but very low, maybe like 10
percent and it's all relative.

642
00:28:18,035 --> 00:28:19,599
So I don't know what 10
percent looks like, but.

643
00:28:20,929 --> 00:28:21,189
Yeah.

644
00:28:21,219 --> 00:28:22,439
So I can do, uh.

645
00:28:23,229 --> 00:28:25,310
Cause I think the issue you had
before is you were filling all

646
00:28:25,310 --> 00:28:29,530
the shadows, but shadows show
all the detail and topography.

647
00:28:29,530 --> 00:28:30,790
They show the shape of your face.

648
00:28:32,219 --> 00:28:35,429
See that already already.

649
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,100
I think you're, I think you
want a low key background.

650
00:28:40,239 --> 00:28:41,869
I don't think you want
that to be too bright.

651
00:28:41,869 --> 00:28:42,219
Right.

652
00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:43,320
If I'm not mistaken.

653
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:43,649
Right.

654
00:28:43,969 --> 00:28:46,709
So I think the point at
where it's at now is cool.

655
00:28:46,749 --> 00:28:48,080
Otherwise I would say, raise your ISO.

656
00:28:48,925 --> 00:28:51,384
And maybe, maybe keep your
key light where it's at.

657
00:28:51,784 --> 00:28:52,735
I think you look balanced.

658
00:28:52,735 --> 00:28:54,504
I think you overall look a little low key.

659
00:28:54,774 --> 00:28:57,184
I think your key light could come
up a little bit if you wanted to

660
00:28:57,184 --> 00:28:58,344
pop off your background a bit.?

661
00:28:59,129 --> 00:29:02,290
No, see that's what I might see
this I might actually end up

662
00:29:02,290 --> 00:29:03,400
getting some new toys out of this.

663
00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:04,390
Oh, oh, no.

664
00:29:04,499 --> 00:29:04,979
Oh, no.

665
00:29:05,139 --> 00:29:06,540
I'd have to take it take a weekend

666
00:29:09,490 --> 00:29:14,180
Yeah mess around over there, okay,
so Yeah, get a varipole and you would

667
00:29:14,290 --> 00:29:17,855
stick that Like, it's kind of like,
you know, the shower curtain rods

668
00:29:17,905 --> 00:29:19,445
that just kind of twist in the walls.

669
00:29:20,555 --> 00:29:23,325
So that would run across your
entire ceiling and then you can

670
00:29:23,325 --> 00:29:24,945
put a hair light behind you.

671
00:29:25,155 --> 00:29:27,295
I wouldn't recommend it off to
the side, like with a key light.

672
00:29:27,305 --> 00:29:28,245
You see how my edge light.

673
00:29:28,650 --> 00:29:30,060
It's kind of off to the side, right?

674
00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:32,360
Since you have butterfly lighting
in front of you, I recommend

675
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,340
putting it right behind you.

676
00:29:33,340 --> 00:29:36,460
So it shines on the back of your head
and both of your shoulders and just

677
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:38,190
perfectly trims you off the background.

678
00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:40,040
That would make you look like nice.

679
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:42,380
You'd look like super saying
you'd look like superhero.

680
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:44,690
It would really pop you off, trim you out.

681
00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:45,820
See this trims me out.

682
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:46,150
Wow.

683
00:29:46,150 --> 00:29:46,289
Wow.

684
00:29:46,780 --> 00:29:47,800
It would get you everywhere.

685
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,310
Wow.

686
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,800
I think that makes perfect sense.

687
00:29:49,970 --> 00:29:51,660
I think you should also
kind of make sense.

688
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,240
Sean, I want you closer to me.

689
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,330
I think this is a lot more personable.

690
00:29:55,830 --> 00:29:59,000
Also your background, what,
what F stop are you at?

691
00:29:59,790 --> 00:30:00,270
A 4.5.

692
00:30:00,420 --> 00:30:00,710
Yeah.

693
00:30:00,710 --> 00:30:01,070
4.5.

694
00:30:01,070 --> 00:30:04,845
I think I'm on like a 4.5 and the lens
goes down to like a 2.8, so I could

695
00:30:04,845 --> 00:30:07,995
really get it down to, uh, which too much.

696
00:30:07,995 --> 00:30:10,095
I mean, that's like, no, almost
like a blurred background.

697
00:30:10,095 --> 00:30:10,725
I'm on 1.8.

698
00:30:10,725 --> 00:30:11,295
Don't you think that'd be

699
00:30:12,285 --> 00:30:12,615
Wow.

700
00:30:12,615 --> 00:30:14,805
Because I have a, a, you
have a Zoom lens right?

701
00:30:15,665 --> 00:30:15,905
Yeah.

702
00:30:15,965 --> 00:30:18,685
I'd get a prime, figure out your
favorite focal length, and then

703
00:30:18,685 --> 00:30:19,525
buy the prime version of it.

704
00:30:19,525 --> 00:30:21,365
And just do, do the prime version of it.

705
00:30:21,415 --> 00:30:23,395
I'm going to have to, I've
got a few prime lenses too.

706
00:30:24,205 --> 00:30:25,065
I'll have to play around with that.

707
00:30:25,065 --> 00:30:26,415
See, this is, this is fantastic.

708
00:30:26,585 --> 00:30:30,055
And so when you're, when you're working
with people and you're, you're doing this,

709
00:30:30,205 --> 00:30:34,065
you literally would have saved me hours.

710
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,040
Fiddle battling around wasting time trying
to do different lights and not, but here's

711
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,380
the thing, you know, what to look for.

712
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:43,920
I would have never even looked
at, Oh, maybe I should put a light

713
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,490
behind me showing down to do the
shoulders, do the, do the hair.

714
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:48,890
I would have never even looked at that.

715
00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:52,330
So it's not even just fiddle battling
around for hours, but you know

716
00:30:52,330 --> 00:30:56,180
where to, you know, where to tap the
hammer to get the, to get the fix.

717
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:56,750
Because it's a

718
00:30:56,750 --> 00:30:57,480
puzzle, dude.

719
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,630
I like puzzles and it's visual.

720
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,460
And I can, I, I mean, it.

721
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:07,320
It's not only that I like
to solve this puzzle for one

722
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,370
person, I also like systems.

723
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:13,070
Like, I'm an artist, I'm a creative,
I channel, I splatterpaint,

724
00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:14,490
but sometimes I architect.

725
00:31:14,995 --> 00:31:18,725
So the solution that I came up with
is something that works for everyone.

726
00:31:18,855 --> 00:31:20,325
And there are contingencies in there.

727
00:31:20,515 --> 00:31:21,895
Well, this doesn't work for me.

728
00:31:21,895 --> 00:31:24,635
My room is not that big and
this and that I considered,

729
00:31:24,855 --> 00:31:27,095
dude, I considered everything.

730
00:31:27,605 --> 00:31:30,525
I know every FAQ I've gotten at all.

731
00:31:30,855 --> 00:31:32,325
I've over a thousand members.

732
00:31:32,435 --> 00:31:33,565
I've heard all the questions.

733
00:31:33,595 --> 00:31:34,675
We have all the results.

734
00:31:34,955 --> 00:31:39,885
So that's why I enjoyed creating
a system that works for everyone.

735
00:31:40,125 --> 00:31:43,685
It's something that's like, I like
to say I took a creative process and

736
00:31:43,685 --> 00:31:45,315
turned it into a standardized process.

737
00:31:45,755 --> 00:31:49,805
Because as much as I love loose ends
and open borders and just kind of

738
00:31:49,805 --> 00:31:54,125
playing around with paints, I also
like structure and I like being able to

739
00:31:54,165 --> 00:31:55,805
produce repeatable results for people.

740
00:31:56,015 --> 00:31:57,755
I'd like two rains
happening at the same time.

741
00:31:58,015 --> 00:31:58,445
It's kind of fun.

742
00:31:58,905 --> 00:32:01,905
And I think that's, you know, one of the
things you said is very important when

743
00:32:01,905 --> 00:32:04,055
you find someone who does good course.

744
00:32:04,065 --> 00:32:06,925
So if you're listening right now and
you're looking at doing a course, you're

745
00:32:06,925 --> 00:32:12,565
looking at producing something, uh, like
what he's done, know what you're doing.

746
00:32:12,575 --> 00:32:18,215
It's like you've spent so much time
on your course and doing that and

747
00:32:18,215 --> 00:32:21,345
prepping for it and making sure
that the right stuff is in there,

748
00:32:21,735 --> 00:32:24,115
that that is what saves people time.

749
00:32:24,335 --> 00:32:26,495
That is what helps people
out is you knowing.

750
00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:32,790
Down to every nut and bolt what the best
solution is for any situation So that's

751
00:32:32,790 --> 00:32:37,850
where the value comes from on any of
these courses is when you can really if

752
00:32:37,850 --> 00:32:42,500
you get if you get a course With someone
that is very reputable that is good You

753
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:45,630
will no doubt save tons of time and money

754
00:32:45,910 --> 00:32:50,565
because you've done the work Thank you
for recognizing and highlighting that

755
00:32:50,615 --> 00:32:53,955
because I don't think I've ever said
this on record because it's thankless

756
00:32:53,955 --> 00:32:58,385
and no one really cares, but I spent
nine months making that course full time.

757
00:32:59,055 --> 00:33:05,455
I spent three months just scripting
the information, 90, 000 words, which

758
00:33:05,455 --> 00:33:08,805
is like a book and a half and the
table of contents and making sure

759
00:33:08,805 --> 00:33:12,415
that the information is presented
in the right order in the right way.

760
00:33:12,595 --> 00:33:17,085
And every sentence is such a good
sentence that you only need to hear

761
00:33:17,085 --> 00:33:19,035
it once in a five minute video.

762
00:33:19,345 --> 00:33:19,835
Thank you.

763
00:33:19,835 --> 00:33:20,405
I understand.

764
00:33:20,405 --> 00:33:21,035
Now move on.

765
00:33:22,045 --> 00:33:28,135
I took nine months to make
a three day course for you.

766
00:33:29,425 --> 00:33:30,875
And it shows, but here's the thing.

767
00:33:30,975 --> 00:33:31,945
Here's the thing that shows.

768
00:33:31,985 --> 00:33:35,945
So not only does your course have
longevity, but everyone I've seen,

769
00:33:36,010 --> 00:33:39,050
And people listening right now,
we're going to have everything in the

770
00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:40,290
show notes for you to go up there.

771
00:33:40,290 --> 00:33:42,040
But it's, uh, onscreen authority.

772
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:44,260
com and you've got some free,
you know, you've got a free

773
00:33:44,260 --> 00:33:47,660
thing for a little tutorial for
people to, to go through as well.

774
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:50,820
We'll again, we'll put all these links
in the show notes, but it shows the

775
00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:54,520
work that you put in absolutely shows
because you'll see the people that are

776
00:33:54,540 --> 00:33:57,800
on there that have done your course
that have done what you've recommended.

777
00:33:58,460 --> 00:34:00,320
It is literally like amateur hour.

778
00:34:00,715 --> 00:34:01,715
Compared to pro hour.

779
00:34:01,835 --> 00:34:07,005
I mean, you can tell immediately that
they have really upped their game for

780
00:34:07,005 --> 00:34:08,825
their courses, for their online content.

781
00:34:09,175 --> 00:34:11,005
And I don't think they
spent that much time.

782
00:34:11,165 --> 00:34:13,455
I mean, I don't, you've, you've
got the system down to where

783
00:34:13,455 --> 00:34:15,495
they can do that within a week.

784
00:34:15,555 --> 00:34:18,955
You know, they can do the, get the
stuff, do the week, maybe set, set a

785
00:34:18,955 --> 00:34:22,885
few things up, but it's, you've got it
down to where you can help people very

786
00:34:22,885 --> 00:34:24,945
quickly get to looking professional.

787
00:34:25,510 --> 00:34:29,040
I think if you meet me in the
middle and you watch everything and

788
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,330
you're decently intelligent and can
follow instructions, like our friend

789
00:34:33,330 --> 00:34:35,120
Doug, Doug did it in three days.

790
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,430
Like I said, three work days and he
doesn't understand cameras, still doesn't

791
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:45,160
understand cameras and he looks like a
boss because I created that system and he,

792
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:48,880
he tucked his ego away and went through
my system and then came out the other end.

793
00:34:49,095 --> 00:34:50,875
with exactly the result that I promised.

794
00:34:51,275 --> 00:34:53,155
And I love to see that.

795
00:34:53,225 --> 00:34:57,005
I love, like a, like a chef loves
watching people eat their meals.

796
00:34:57,325 --> 00:35:00,015
I love watching people go through
my process and coming out and

797
00:35:00,015 --> 00:35:01,235
saying, Hey, you were right.

798
00:35:01,235 --> 00:35:02,005
I'm like, I know.,

799
00:35:02,890 --> 00:35:06,840
That's the beautiful thing of why
I like having other creators on the

800
00:35:06,850 --> 00:35:12,050
podcast is because it is, it's a,
for most of us that do these courses.

801
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:12,810
Sure.

802
00:35:12,810 --> 00:35:13,580
We want to make money.

803
00:35:13,590 --> 00:35:13,830
Sure.

804
00:35:13,830 --> 00:35:16,000
That's, that's, we're in
business to make money.

805
00:35:16,955 --> 00:35:18,395
There are children at the same time.

806
00:35:18,505 --> 00:35:19,395
It's like they are.

807
00:35:19,405 --> 00:35:19,885
They are.

808
00:35:19,915 --> 00:35:21,235
Our courses are a part of us.

809
00:35:21,295 --> 00:35:24,325
It's not something you didn't just go
throw this together to go make some money.

810
00:35:24,875 --> 00:35:26,215
This is part of you.

811
00:35:26,275 --> 00:35:29,895
Part of what's taken you years
and years to learn and understand.

812
00:35:30,715 --> 00:35:31,585
It's part of you.

813
00:35:31,585 --> 00:35:34,125
It's not, it's not just some
whimsical thing that you said, Hey,

814
00:35:34,125 --> 00:35:35,355
yeah, I'm going to do this course.

815
00:35:35,685 --> 00:35:38,735
You know what I tell people
now I'm not a businessman.

816
00:35:39,275 --> 00:35:39,905
I'm an artist.

817
00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:43,110
It doesn't make a difference.

818
00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:44,090
I'm just going to do work.

819
00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:45,460
I'm going to do great work.

820
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:45,710
Yeah,

821
00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:46,520
that's all I got.

822
00:35:46,660 --> 00:35:47,980
And you're creating, you're creating.

823
00:35:47,980 --> 00:35:51,910
So to me, if you're creating and
you're being creative, you're not just

824
00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:54,370
creating the same shit that someone else
has done, but you're being creative.

825
00:35:54,380 --> 00:35:58,510
That is being, to me, as being an artist,
you're not copying other people's art.

826
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:59,830
You're being creative.

827
00:35:59,830 --> 00:36:02,650
You're looking at that and you're
being, you know, that creativity is

828
00:36:02,650 --> 00:36:05,630
what shows that that's really what
makes all of our stuff different

829
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,970
is the creativity that we use.

830
00:36:06,970 --> 00:36:10,200
And again, coming from an artist
background, it's absolutely.

831
00:36:10,615 --> 00:36:14,504
Yeah.

832
00:36:14,505 --> 00:36:17,065
I think a lot of artists will
tell you, it's like, I'm not

833
00:36:17,065 --> 00:36:18,335
even making the work, man.

834
00:36:18,395 --> 00:36:23,265
I'm just stepping aside and doing my
best to channel what needs to be there.

835
00:36:23,455 --> 00:36:27,415
It's like when Michelangelo set
David free from the marble, right?

836
00:36:28,105 --> 00:36:30,005
He was already there and
he just got out of the way.

837
00:36:31,195 --> 00:36:35,545
Not to compare myself to Michelangelo,
but same, same kind of concept.

838
00:36:35,805 --> 00:36:39,005
I just, I just want to make something
great and get myself out of the way

839
00:36:39,865 --> 00:36:45,025
And I truly want to thank you, Jason, for
coming on the show to give us, helping me.

840
00:36:45,425 --> 00:36:48,055
You know, increase my, you know,
increase the way I'm going to

841
00:36:48,055 --> 00:36:49,355
look the way I'm going to show up.

842
00:36:49,885 --> 00:36:53,465
Thank you for your great questions
and, and highlighting me and helping me

843
00:36:53,465 --> 00:36:55,025
make some discoveries about myself too.

844
00:36:55,255 --> 00:36:56,545
This has been a great experience.

845
00:36:56,545 --> 00:36:57,595
Thank you so much for having me on.